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Published on December 9th, 2013 | by -swansong-

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Sandy Hook Evidence:Where is the Blood?



In this article titled, Sandy Hook Evidence:Where is the Blood? we will examine the lack of blood evidence at SHE and look at who cleaned up the Sandy Hook crime scene and what, if any, qualifications are required to do so.

I realize some may find this topic morbid, distasteful and wholly unnecessary. Honestly I wish it wasn’t noteworthy. I have no more desire to delve into this topic than you may to read about it. Unfortunately there has been one question that has nagged at myself and Sandy Hook researchers from day 1…where’s the blood?

I pondered on this topic for quite awhile. I came close to writing an article about it several months ago but thought better of it. Recent information regarding the cleanup of SHE has made me reconsider.

Sandy Hook Evidence:Where is the Blood?

Some might wonder why this subject is even a topic of conversation or investigation since the school, after all, was ground into dust and hauled away. While true, at the time the clean-up would have been necessary no one could have (should have) known that the school would be demolished. For all anyone knew that school would need to be put back into shape for the re-arrival of children at some point.

So, while the topic may be morbid I think it’s a conversation worth having.

Before I get too far into this I must give credit to Sofia Smallstorm for getting me pointed in the right direction for this examination.

Sofia had heard about a podcast in which one presenter (from Newtown) had mentioned speaking with the person responsible for the (at the time) upcoming clean-up of SHE. After some searching and some help from Kennedy we were able to find the podcast.

The presenter’s name is Rachel Basch. This is a snippet of a letter she wrote to the Connecticut General Assembly calling for stiffer gun control measures.

Rachel Basch Submission to the Connecticut General Assembly

My name is Rachel Basch. I’ve lived in Sandy Hook for 24 years. For 9 years, when my children were very young, we lived in a house directly behind the Sandy Hook School. We treated the school yard as an extension of our backyard. Until Friday, Dec. 14th, the hallways and the classrooms of that school were the matrix of all that was sweet and generative in my experience of life on this planet.

At the following link you can hear Ms. Basch recite an audio diary of her thoughts and experiences that Friday in December, 2012. Ms. Basch’s portion begins at approximately the 19m50sec mark of the file. Should you wish to jump directly to the section relevant to the clean-up, it begins at approximately the 31min mark.

Rachel Basch Audio Diary

We walk to the building next door. We’ve taken over this space, “come in.” We go into a badly sheet-rocked room that contains nothing but 5 metal folding chairs. These will be extra counselling rooms, separate entrances for adults and children.

Jim Maguire said to, “just take the space and we can work out the details later…or never.”

She tells me that the Maguires, who own the building, lost a son some years ago. Jim owns a restoration company, too. They’re gonna be the ones going into the school to do the cleanup. We have counsellors lined up to talk to him and his crew before…and after.

Admittedly this audio diary is not as solid a piece of evidence as I may have wanted but I do think, given Ms. Basch’s history in the area and her first hand encounters on the very day of the event, that this account is very likely accurate.

Sandy Hook Evidence:Where is the Blood?

Before I get to the how and who of the clean-up I think it might be worthwhile to compare Sandy Hook to another fairly recent event, the Aurora theater shooting.

Should you be wondering the banner accompanying this article has a photo of the scene outside the Aurora, Colorado movie theater where it is alleged James Holmes entered and started shooting. I chose it specifically due to it’s occurrence in recent history and due to the fact that the shootings, like SHE, occurred indoors. No one was shot outside the building.

Aurora Blood Trail

Aurora Blood Trail2

Note that all the blood able to be seen in the photos has been spilled/tracked outside from inside. The blood is even able to be seen from aerial helicopter footage.

Comparisons with photos from Sandy Hook show nothing even remotely similar which, in my opinion, is rather astonishing given that there were more victims and more people exiting the building.

This is a crime scene image released by the Ct State Police. It shows the patio area immediately adjacent to the front doors of SHE. Many people exited through the front doors that day including at least 2 rather large groups of children.

SHE crime scene photo front patio

This is a high resolution aerial of SHE. Click on the image for full size.

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No blood. No trails…no smudges…no drops…nothing. How could that be? Perhaps this account of a woman calling Lt. Vance to ask about the crime scene cleanup will answer the question. This account comes to us courtesy of Sofia Smallstorm’s video Unraveling Sandy Hook.

I don’t have a computer of sufficient power to quickly edit the pertinent section out of the video so you’ll just have to scroll to it yourself. It’s at the 1hr26min mark. or if you haven’t seen this video I would recommend viewing it in it’s entirety.

Update – I found the clip contained within Sofia’s doc should you wish to listen to only it. I’d still recommend viewing Sofia’s vid if you have yet to do so.
 



 
Unraveling Sandy Hook
 



 
Caller relating her conversation with Lt. Vance:

Who did the blood clean-up at Sandy Hook? And he was totally caught off guard. At first he said, “what blood?”

“26 people died in that building, who cleaned up the blood, Sir?”

“Uhh, I don’t know…You’ll have to call the violent crimes unit.”

Unfortunately the caller didn’t have the means to record her conversation with Lt. Vance so we have only her word as to it’s accuracy. Although, given the apparent cleanliness of the area outside the school, I may have also asked, “what blood?”

Sandy Hook Evidence:Where is the Blood?

To continue the discussion of the cleanup we first need to understand what blood is, or more accurately, how it is classified.

I’m including the link to the .pdf file from the Ct Dept of Energy & Env Protection for regulations pertaining to solid waste management…but I wouldn’t advise clicking on it unless you enjoy long-form legalese.

Department of Energy & Environmental Protection

Sec. 22a-209-15. Biomedical waste

‘‘Infectious waste’’ means waste which is capable of causing an infectious disease, is one of the wastes listed below, or is waste identified as infectious by a licensed health care provider.

(2) Any body fluid, waste human blood, or waste blood product, any container of any of the foregoing, and any disposable item that is saturated or dripping with a body fluid or that was saturated or dripping with a body fluid and has since caked with dried body fluid.

‘‘Body fluid’’ means any substance which emanates or derives from the human body, including but not limited to blood, semen, vaginal secretions, cerebrospinal fluid, synovial fluid, pleural fluid, peritoneal fluid and pericardial fluid, but excluding feces, urine, nasal secretions, sputum, sweat, tears, vomitus, saliva, and breast milk, unless any such excluded substance contains visible blood or is isolation waste.

From the above we can see that blood is not only a bodily fluid but also bio-waste and (potentially) infectious waste.

To this point I have been unable to find any specific regulations regarding who MUST clean up a crime scene. That is to say I have not found any law that says you can’t clean up a crime scene or suicide scene on your own although I can scarcely imagine anyone wishing to do so. What I have found is innumerable regulations regarding the handling of bio-medical waste (BMW), the packaging and transporting of BMW and regulations regarding the training and safety procedures for those handling BMW.

Companies dealing with BMW have to follow regulations from several different agencies including, Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), Centers for Disease Control (CDC), National Institute for Occupational Health and Safety (NIOSH) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)…and that’s just the federal agencies. There are also individual state regulations to be adhered to.

This is a link to the OSHA’s regulations for dealing with bloodborne pathogens, for example.

In this letter to the OSHA someone is asking about the regulations dealing with the handling of lab coats, etc from a dental practice. OSHA tells the writer they have to follow all the same rules regarding potentially infectious materials.

As you can see it is no small matter dealing with the handling or clean up of blood, potentially infectious materials or bloodborne pathogens.

So who was it that was hired to handle this delicate and highly specialized task? A professional crime scene cleaner with years of experience? A special task force from the CDC or the EPA?

Not quite.

According to Rachel Basch it was JP Maguire & Associates.

Sandy Hook Evidence:Where is the Blood?

JP Maguire

And what kind of work does JP Maguire do? This answer from their FAQ page to the question, What emergency services does JP Maguire provide?, provides a summary.

JP Maguire provides emergency contracting service for fire, water, mold, storm, vehicle impact and smoke damage. Our response time in most cases is under 2 hours. We will coordinate crews for your specific needs, such as electricians, plumbers, tree removal, roofers etc. Call us. We’ll get what you need to ‘just make it go away’.

There are detailed listing for all their services including, Fire and Smoke Damage, Water Damage, Wind Damage, Vehicle Impacts, Mold Remediation and Disaster Reconstruction

I found absolutely nothing alluding to their qualifications for handling BMW, bloodborne pathogens or Other Potentially Infectious Materials (OPIM). They are, by all indications, simply a restoration company like so many others across the country.

Needless to say I found this just a little surprising. It’s even more surprising when you take note of how Newtown handled another potentially messy situation in their town.

Police Probe Uncovers Odd Situation At Vacant Berkshire Road House

After investigating a report of suspicious activity having occurred at a vacant, rundown house at 82 Berkshire Road (Route 34) in Sandy Hook, town police determined on Friday, April 26, that unusual, but not criminal, activity had taken place, police said.

Newtown Police Lieutenant Richard Robinson said that an investigation found that someone had left between 200 and 300 one-gallon plastic jugs filled with urine within the house…

About 15 people including state police, state environmental officials, town police, environmental cleanup workers, as well as town health and building officials, went to the property on April 26 to determine what had occurred.

Clean Harbors, Inc, an environmental cleanup firm, carted away the many jugs of urine, Town Health Director Donna Culbert said Friday afternoon.

Clean Harbors Inc

Clean Harbors Inc

Clean Harbors is the leading provider of environmental, energy and industrial services throughout North America. The Company serves a diverse customer base, including a majority of the Fortune 500 companies, thousands of smaller private entities and numerous federal, state, provincial and local governmental agencies.

Within Clean Harbors Environmental Services, the Company offers Technical Services and Field Services. Technical Services provide a broad range of hazardous material management and disposal services including the collection, packaging, transportation, recycling, treatment and disposal of hazardous and non-hazardous waste. Field Services provide a wide variety of environmental cleanup services on customer sites or other locations on a scheduled or emergency response basis.

To recap…

To haul away a couple hundred jugs of piss we hire a top-notch, North America wide environmental cleanup company but to clean up the worst school shooting in US history we hire Jim, the guy you call when your water heater bursts.

SHE patio

So…who was it that chose JP Maguire & Associates for this job rather than one of the several specialized crime scene cleaners operating in the greater NY/CT area? Unfortunately we don’t have the specifics on that but we do have this…

Contractor Moving Furniture from Sandy Hook: ‘I’ve Seen Things I Don’t Even Really Want to Talk About’

Al Barbarotta, owner of AFB Construction, has been working since Saturday with Newtown and Monroe officials after getting a call from the Connecticut Commissioner of Education’s office.

Instantly, on Saturday, we started bringing in cleaning crews and moving crews to get the furniture out,” Barbarotta said. “I’ve seen things I don’t even really want to talk about. There’s markings on the floor. There’s blood everywhere. You can see the broken windows in the classroom in the whole area where the shooting took place.”

To keep the crime scene at the school uncompromised, Barbarotta said his crews built plywood partitions isolating the scene.

Needless to say, a couple of things immediately jump out at me. “Instantly on Saturday we started bringing in cleaning crews”? They started cleaning the scene and moving furniture on Saturday? Long before any investigation could possibly be completed?

And of course… There’s blood EVERYWHERE

But maybe they didn’t clean the scene…To keep the crime scene at the school uncompromised, Barbarotta said his crews built plywood partitions isolating the scene. So what are your cleanup crews cleaning if you’ve blocked off the affected areas to maintain their integrity?

SHE patio2

Sandy Hook Evidence:Where is the Blood?

So who is Al Barbarotta and how did he get this assignment? Conveniently enough he is a close personal friend of Connecticut Governor Dannel P. Malloy. Unfortunately for the Gov. Mr. Barbarotta has gotten himself in a bit of hot water with Newtown officials for using some “heavy-handed” tactics to drum up some extra business while handling his Sandy Hook duties.

Barbarotta’s sales pitch at Sandy Hook

When Al Barbarotta, the governor’s close friend and manager of his private Stamford property, was approached by the Malloy administration in December to coordinate the relocation of school equipment from the shattered remains of Sandy Hook Elementary School, he said he would be happy to help, free of charge.

But Newtown officials say Barbarotta made a sales pitch to them during that traumatic move from Newtown to Chalk Hill School in Monroe. Additionally, he later sent them a sales brochure that state officials say improperly used the logo of a government agency.

“Here you are in the midst of a tragedy, and this guy is trying to sell you stuff,” said one Newtown official, who asked not to be identified because he is not an authorized spokesman. “He really upset a lot of people.”

MmHmmm…. You can view the sales pitch sent out by Barbarotta HERE

We also have this…

Trumbull Auditor’s Draft Report Targets Al Barbarotta

Al Barbarotta should not serve as both the facilities manager and the owner’s representative for the Trumbull School District, according to one recommendation of a recently-released draft report by Internal Auditor James Henderson.

Several of Henderson’s findings claimed Barbarotta had conflicts of interest and tried to influence the town to use companies in which he served.

Specifically:

“As the facilities manager for the Board of Education, Barbarotta attempted to influence the Board of Education to hear a presentation and potentially hire an energy company to perform energy efficiency services for the school district. Mr. Barbarotta holds a management position with Conveo Energy, the company in question.”

Barbarotta and Conveo Energy LLC and officials of the Trumbull Board of Education attempted to circumvent the public bid process to award Conveo Energy LLC to work outside of the normal bid procurement process. Town officials also worked to assist Mr. Barbarotta in providing Conveo Energy LLC with pertinent information that would have provided them with an unfair advantage if energy efficiency services were to be publicly bid.”

Mr. Barbarotta attempted to influence the first selectman, the chief of police, members of the Emergency Management Shelter Building Committee, to install a fuel cell instead of a generator at Trumbull High School.” Barbarotta lobbied for Conveo Energy, Henderson said.

So there you have it. The crime scene was cleaned by a company with no apparent qualifications to do so and they were likely contracted by a man of questionable character who just happens to be good buddies with the Governor.

There’s just one more thing that I find curious. I don’t recall, nor can I find, even one mention of Mr. Barbarotta’s company or Mr. Maguire’s company ever having to sign any confidentiality agreements prior to beginning work at the school.

But perhaps when your company motto is, “We Just Make It Go Away”, that’s all you really need to know.

As a final aside…I was trimming my dog’s nails this week. I’m pretty good at it. I’ve never clipped the “quick” even though her nails are black. Well…this week, for the first time, I clipped the quick. I couldn’t believe how much it bled and how long it took to stop.

By the time it was done I had (have) blood all over the place. The linoleum cleaned up pretty well but the carpet has stains that will remind me of her long after she’s gone. She even left some frozen globs in the snow.

And that was one toenail…from one dog. Not the life’s blood of 26 human beings.

Update 04/18/14

Having had the opportunity to read through most of the official Sandy Hook report I can now tell you who it was that “officially” handled the cleanup operation for Sandy Hook school and the Lanza home.

School Cleanup1

You can click on the above banner for the full page. That page can be found at CFS 1200704559 – Book 2 – 00198991.pdf of the official report.

As we can see, contrary to information provided earlier, it appears that it was not JP Maguire that cleaned the school, it was actually Clean Harbors. I ask why they didn’t hire Clean Harbours to do the job…then the report comes out and lo and behold…Clean Harbors. How convenient.

Case closed, right? Well…not quite.

A dedicated Sandy Hook researcher by the name of Kelley from Tulsa took it upon herself to investigate this further. Kelley was well aware of the comments of Al Barbarotta regarding his role in the clean up and how he stated that he had been in the school the next morning with a clean up team…so she called AFB Construction (Barbarotta’s company) and spoke with Mr. Barbarotta. When pressed on the issue Mr. Barbarotta admitted that they didn’t actually “clean up” the school. They simply collected books to be moved from SHS to the new location at Chalk Hill. Kelley went on to ask, “If you didn’t clean it up then who did?” Kelley was informed that it was handled by the FBI’s forensic division.

Not willing to stop there, Kelley called her local detachment of the FBI. She asked them a hypothetical…”If there was a mass shooting in Tulsa would you clean up the blood or would you call someone else to do it?” The response…”No, we would not do that but the police may.”

This particular issue becomes even more muddied when we take into account this section of the report.

school turnover1

As we can see from the above file (which can be found at CFS 1200704559 – Book1 – 00085169.pdf) The SHS crime scene was turned over to The Town of Newtown/The School District and the NPD on the 21st of Dec. Granted, if you check the 1st paragraph of the 00198991.pdf it says that State Police turned the school over to the town on the 28th of Dec. Regardless of which day the actual turnover occurred, why is the FBI handling the clean up assignment which doesn’t even begin until the 31st?

Something else I think is worthy of note are the comments regarding the moving and removal of items from the 2 classrooms affected by the shooting and conference room 9. Apparently conference room 9 was the room used as a sort of command center for the salvaging of items from the 2 classrooms.
2 classrooms that had yet to be cleaned. A hallway covered in the blood of Dawn Hochsprung and Mary Sherlach that hadn’t been cleaned. The inner door area of conference room 9 where Natalie Hammond sat and bled while waiting for police…not cleaned…yet police spend the better part of a week in there.

When we turn our attention to the Lanza residence we see that the FBI also handled the assigning of a clean up crew for that property. This time the crew is an actual crime scene clean up crew called Aftermath Specialists. As with the SHS scene the State Police was in control of the scene at the Lanza’s and the site wasn’t turned over to the Lanza’s until after the cleanup was done. CFS 1200704559 – Book 2 – 00198985.pdf

Lanza turnover1

And what of Rachel Basch, the author and longtime Newtown resident who gave us her 1st hand accounts of that day including how JP Maguire would be handling the clean up of the school? I contacted Ms. Basch to ask her about this discrepancy. I explained that I had heard her audio diary and that it appears to not jibe with the official account. I asked her if there was a possibility that she could have been incorrect and this was her response.

“I absolutely could have been incorrect in stating that JP Maguire was involved in the cleanup of the school. I’m not a reporter. And this audio diary was an excerpt from an essay I wrote for n+1, which was a highly personal account of what the first few days felt like here for me in my town. I wrote it at the end of Dec. 2012, when the world was still very much upside down.”

I wrote back thanking Ms. Basch for her response and asked if she could tell me who it was that had passed along these details to her. Ms. Basch did not respond. I waited a few days and wrote back explaining that I don’t need to know the actual name of the person but I would appreciate it if she could provide me the role/position/authority of the person that had passed along the info. Again, Ms. Basch did not respond.

One final note regarding this issue of clean up before I put it aside for the time being.

Keith Johnson of the site MetaBunk took on the issue of the SHS clean up and this article. Specifically the issue of whether or not JP Maguire had the qualifications to do a cleanup of that kind. Even though there is zero mention of such qualifications on the JP Maguire website Mr. Johnson somehow manages to come up with just such a mention. Scroll down til you see JP Maguire.

I have no idea where this comes from nor can I find it’s original source. The only place you’ll find it mentioned is in the post by Mr. Johnson. It seems very odd that a company would invest in the equipment required to handle crime scene clean up and not bother to advertise those services. Frankly I’m highly suspicious and skeptical of the appearance of this piece of information.

Mr. Johnson ends his debunking post by attempting to contradict a point in this article, namely, the necessity of stringent transport requirements and permits for bio-medical waste.

“It also appears that a trauma clean-up company can transport blood or blood contaminated items without a licensed transporter. According to DEEP:”

A transporter permit is not required for a generator of biomedical waste who transports his own biomedical waste from its original generation point to a central collection point pursuant to RCSA Section 22a-209-15(g)(14)(A-C).”

Unfortunately Mr. Johnson missed the boat on this one. Crime scene cleaners are not “generators” of biomedical waste. A hospital, for example, would be considered a generator of BMW. Unless the crime scene company was responsible for murdering people they could not, in any way, be considered a “generator” of BMW.

I have tried to sign up to MetaBunk to correct these assertions but am apparently not allowed to join. Perhaps you’ll have better luck. You can find the post here.

Thanks to Kelley from Tulsa for her assistance and all the other researchers and investigators that continue to toil in anonymity in an effort to find the truth of this event. You are all appreciated.

-swansong-

What are your thoughts regarding Sandy Hook Evidence:Where is the Blood? Think anything is strange in the way the cleanup was handled? Think they were in there kind of fast? Or is this just an irrelevant aside to a tragic event?

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76 Responses to Sandy Hook Evidence:Where is the Blood?

  1. KennedyRay says:

    Very good article Swansong. thank you!

  2. Bittercritter says:

    Home run dude! I hadn’t seen how far this rabbit hole went, far enough apparently. They made a big deal of making those tearing down the school signing agreements. None for these guys though.
    The complete absence of blood at the scene as well as on anyone was pretty remarkable. No video recordings, conflicting stories everywhere, I think those who don’t have questions must be insane. It’s beyond absurd these days, the emperor has no clothes effect is at work.

    I thought Newtown was a “destination” town yet not enough so to keep a middle school open?

    “”Monroe’s First Selectman, Steve Vavrek, said Chalk Hill Middle School was closed down due to “decreased enrollment” in 2010,””

    Abandoned backwater Connecticut town turned movie studio.
    Welcome to Newtown.
    That Bahai dude creeps me out, Woodward? Woodman?
    Anyways, I digress. Excellent work there Swan.
    Always a new angle with you guys, makes it worth coming back regularly to see what you’ve discovered.

    • -swansong- says:

      Bless you, you Crankyvarmint 🙂

      That was just the pep talk I needed.

      And you’re right on the nose re: the closing of Chalk Hill. A bizarre and ever so convenient happenstance when needing to “relocate” a school full of kids. Talk about serendipity.

      “Abandoned backwater turned movie studio”

      At this point…that would not surprise me in the slightest.

      Thanks again, Bud.

  3. Pilot says:

    excellent as usual Swansong!
    Are you thinking there was no blood & the lack of confidentiality agreement with JP McGuire was overlooked because it was unnecessary? Strange fact about the lady making the recording– gawd could this story get any weirder?

    • -swansong- says:

      Thanks, Pilot. Whoaaaoaaa Piiiiilot. That’s a good question. My initial thought was that they were all dirty through participation in the charade and thus wouldn’t need to be sworn to secrecy.

      Could it get any weirder? Yes…I bet it could.

  4. bittercritter says:

    There have been some old articles getting reposted about Richard Novia, the tech club head and overall security guru for Newtown schools. Seems he left the same year Adam did and was the only adult involved in his life – even more so than his own father by all accounts. It was reported the tech club would have weekend “sleepovers” at school (unknown which school). There should be video tape of Adam as the pics of him in front of a blue logo in a school were actually video stills.
    Novia left under cloudy circumstances possibly related to the assault of a student where Novia and the janitor (could it have been Kevin Anzelloti – the guy that Rick Thorne was replacing on the day of the shootings?) were the only adults at the school. It was after this that Nancy began homeschooling Adam.
    Novia is a member of the DHS public-private alliance Infragard.

    Another thing I think would be helpful to researchers is a comprehensive list of things that predate the shooting like Chalk Hill. Like with 9/11 when the summer before the Bush administration told the FBI to “Back off” the Bin Ladens or the rule change about allowing pilots to no longer be armed. These things all point to pre-knowledge and planning on someone’s part.
    Maybe research is getting stuck due to looking only at the event and the fallout instead of things that preceded it.
    It’s an avenue I think might be worth exploring anyway.

    • Adam “Lee Harvey” Lanza’s preoccupation with pedophilia if true was most likely to have begun when he was a victim of it himself. And since it’s far more likely that a pedo ring is involved than a lone predator… It provides a motive of a kind if he was the shooter, and a different motive altogether for the murders if he wasn’t…

  5. Fake shootings, yet another violation of our rights. The gov’t constantly violates our rights.

    They violate the 1st Amendment by caging protesters and banning books like “America Deceived II”.

    They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by allowing TSA to grope you.

    They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars.

    Impeach Obama.

    Last link of “America Deceived II” before it is completely banned:

    http://www.amazon.com/America-Deceived-II-Possession-interrogation/dp/1450257437

  6. Callahan says:

    Apparently Hochsprung and Sherlach were found in a closet in the kitchen

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY6E8sCT4Ao

    But the New York Times said that Hochsprung lunged at Lanza

    http://newtown.patch.com/groups/editors-picks/p/sandy-hook-principal-mother-educator-leader-hero

    So if she and Sherlach was in the kitchen closet trying to hide maybe that is why there was no blood to trample on in the hallway ?

    • -swansong- says:

      Anything is possible…but none of that really matters. The blood trails are just an aside.

      The real story is the cleanup of the school the very next morning…by a company with no qualifications for the task required.

    • -swansong- says:

      I saw that yesterday. It’s pretty bizarre, eh? Joey Gay was supposed to be unable to speak due to her condition…so I can’t imagine her singing…unless she wasn’t…or unless they were lying about her condition…or…I don’t know.

      I hate examining video/photo evidence…especially facial stuff. I suck at it. But yeah…to my eye…and from those images…they do look very similar.

  7. Pilot says:

    Do you remember the kid who was interviewed with the construction worker in the background who said he heard what sounded like the custodian “knocking stuff down”?? I believe he is on the top row, third from the left.

    http://imgur.com/a/LVKq3#99bH8Hf

    • -swansong- says:

      I’d have to find the screencap of that kid…but you might be right.

      Would have been cool to have been there and called out some of their names as they walked by…see if they turn and look..lol

  8. dan says:

    not one parent has seen the remains of their child…only a picture of them and not one taken on that day….if there is no blood..then might one parent care to see their child’s remains….just one…or better yet….how about the legal system of CT requiring a look at the deceased..since none where transported to any hospital as per procedure……just asking….PS I, myself , as a parent would demand to see and hold my slain child….for a final goodbye…..not one of the many in CT ..said goodbye in that manner…not one……there will never be any ‘rest in peace’…until one does……..imho

  9. Callahan says:

    Swansong I just re-ead your writeup of the Newtown Bee report on the John Voket interview with Dawn Hochsprung. Initially I dismissed the article as not having ant significant impact and that the core focus was on the fact that Dawn Hochsprung was bit really dead – I an convinced with confidence that she is dead.

    However after additional thought I realized that report is VERY significant because it means that the Newtown Bee, John Voket, played a role in creating the false narrative. Nobody saw the shooter with a mask and a rifle so who gave Voket that information? The fact that he will not identify that person leads me to believe that they knew they were making this up!

    I personally believe that the murders were real but that Lanza was a patsy. The 911 calls support that there were multiple shooters and that shooting extended well beyond 9:40 am as asserted in the official police report.

    • -swansong- says:

      However after additional thought I realized that report is VERY significant because it means that the Newtown Bee, John Voket, played a role in creating the false narrative. Nobody saw the shooter with a mask and a rifle so who gave Voket that information? The fact that he will not identify that person leads me to believe that they knew they were making this up!

      Precisely…but it means more than that. The cache date on that article was correct…I have confirmation from bing that I will be adding to a new article. Think about that for a moment.

      The article claiming the principal was still alive…was written prior to the event. But then she died.

  10. sushieq says:

    Great article. There were so many questions surrounding this incident, and they have just seemed to multiply over the past year. It’s good to see that many have remained interested.

    As my own aside, I had an African Grey parrot once that broke a “blood feather” in her wing. Before we could grab her to pull it out, so much blood had sprayed across the walls and ceiling that it looked like the Nicole Simpson/Ron Brown murder scene. From ONE, still-alive, nearly-weightless bird.

    Again, good job digging in and reporting your finds.

    • -swansong- says:

      Thanks much.

      Great anecdote about your feathered friend….very colorful, too 🙂

      But yes…blood…there’s a reason they call it blood “pressure”, eh?

  11. Callahan says:

    Just some background from ground zero. I fully appreciate the indicators that lead one to question whether real shootings took place. There are excellent questions : what bodies? where is the blood? why no triage ? why no resuscitation attempts ?

    However I do live here in Sandy Hook and although I did not physically verify any dead bodies I know many people that are indirectly involved. Relatives and friends of victims, hospital workers etc that personally attest to what transpire. Are they all lying ?

    If some doctors and nurses at the hospital told their children that they attended to some of the victims are they lying to their own children ? My relative is a friend of someone with kids in the school. One of those children lost her best friend in the attack. (name withheld) are they lying and the girl did not die. Nobody I know in town knows anybody that was reported killed and is walking around town alive.

    Is there a lack of compelling evidence of dead bodies ? Yes but I don’t find compelling reasons to dismiss the ENTIRE story and a lack of evidence is not evidence. How much blood and bodies did we see from VA Tech?

    I do believe there is alot of false reporting on this incident but overall I have to believe that the deaths were real. I think the hoax theories are intended to discredit the truth movement.

    I believe Lanza was set up. I believe there were multiple shooters. The Kindergarten Teacher’s son theory is the most realistic scenario incorporating the evidence, reports and motives.
    Chris Manfredonia lives right behind Lanza and he was caught running away from the scene and cuffed. His daughter was reportedly in Roig;s class which was spared- what a couple of coincidences huh ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaeW2IweTp8

    Key witnesses have remained silent or exposed as a liar – Natalie Hammond will not discuss the event with her close friends, Sally Cox met eyes with the shooter but then denied that she said that and asserted that she hid in a closet for 4 hours.

    • -swansong- says:

      I wonder if you realize that the scope of the cover-up involved in keeping all this info quiet (second shooter/covering for Manfredonia, etc…) poses no less a challenge to explain than does the concept of some/none dying.

      If parents thought for a moment there was a cover-up one would think they’d be screaming bloody murder (sorry) demanding answers…not aiding in the hiding of information.

      A relative with a friend who’s kid lost a friend? From what I’ve read about that area you could live next door to your neighbor for years and not know them.

      No…I think some people died…but who knows who…or when. There is a provocative theory that some of the participants were already ill…likely cancer…and had passed away prior to, or shortly after (if at all) the event.

      Their deaths used for noble purposes.

      If your theory is multiple shooters with a police and town cover-up…your burden is no less daunting than ours.

  12. Callahan says:

    My theory is based on what the evidence and reports suggest and are by no means conclusive. Hoax theories are out there saying unequivocally there were no deaths.

    There is evidence/reports corroborating the rationale for my theory though – the nurse identified the shooter as the son of a kindergarten teacher- Tony Aiello reported that the shooter was allowed in because the principal recognized him as the son of a colleague, Vance evaded the question when asked if the shooter’s mother was affiliated with the school. Kindergarten teacher’s friend called out sick that day.

    I am open to deaths being faked but have not seen the compelling evidence. One of the most likely victims I was convinced may be fake turned out to be the one I ended up verifying was legit.

    You are right, either way a cover up is going to take alot of cooperative silence from either first responders or everybody else. I think it would be easier for a dozen LE personnel and witnesses to remain silent than a whole town.

    Bottom line is that I am in the town every day and have found nobody to suggest that these people did not exist or were hired actors or whatever. If all the deaths were faked it should be easy to get a live picture of one of the “victims”. I have yet to see one.

    My mind is always open.

    We all must agree there are alot of disinfo agents out there. I don’t think the perpetrators benefit by fake deaths being erroneously reported as real but they certainly benefit by real deaths being reported as faked.

    More importantly is why was this done and by whom ?

  13. Callahan says:

    This video, thus far, seems to be the best theory- For what it’s worth

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaeW2IweTp8

    • -swansong- says:

      I don’t see any “theory” proffered here. I see a quote by McCarren that has been specifically refuted by Cox…and some innuendo about Vollmer.

      What’s the theory? That someone got to Cox…got her to change her story…Got to McCarren and told her to never mention it again…is covering for Vollmer…and is keeping the families quiet so they don’t make waves?

      And you think this is simpler and more in line with the “evidence”?

  14. Callahan says:

    Both Cox and McCarren refuse to clarify and discuss this at all. McCarren blocks all twitter inquiries on this issue. Why such an aversion? McCarren went into great detail on the extent that Cox described the kindergarten teacher.

    This is also corroborated by Tony Aiello who reported that the shooter was buzzed in because he was recognized as the son of a colleague.

    So we have two independent data points corroborating the school teacher’s son theory.

    Plus there is a rational motive for that individual.

    Cox later stated that she hid in a closet for 4 hours so is that believable ?

    So would you at least agree that the theory is “plausible” and worthy of more detailed examination?

    I really do not have any conclusive assertions to make but I think the available evidence provides enough to suggest concerns that at least a compelling inquiry be made.

    • -swansong- says:

      Both Cox and McCarren refuse to clarify and discuss this at all. McCarren blocks all twitter inquiries on this issue.

      Not true. McCarren doesn’t wish to speak about it (I have contacted her)…but Cox…in an article in the HuffPo was quoted as specifically refuting the contention that she said those words to Mccarren.

      When reached by phone, Cox told HuffPost that she “never said anything about anyone,” although she acknowledged a group of reporters had “descended” on her outside the town firehouse. When asked if McCarren got her story wrong, Cox said “yes” and added that “those [conspiracy] theories are all manufactured lies.”

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/sandy-hook-hoax-theories-explained-debunking-newtown-truther_n_2627233.html

      I wrote Mccarren asking her how she felt being called a liar and she never responded.

  15. Callahan says:

    Also we need to acknowledge that Cox may have had a motive to change her theory under the circumstances. Might she have been threatened or coerced? If the kindergarten teacher’s son was culpable are there powerful influences that would try to deflect culpability ? To what extent would they exert that influence? Her and McCarren are in very difficult situations.

  16. Kelley says:

    I too have tried contacting McCarren to set the record straight o no avail. Have also contacted Newtown Bee to ask questions but their reporters and photographers can’t be spoken too unlike reporters from any other paper in the US..

  17. bob tatro says:

    Why did you mix the music so hot? I want to hear the narrative not the music. Please remix. Geez!

  18. Travis says:

    Also not to mention this is happen they the government were trying to take gun rights away and trying to blame every shooting on why we should not be aloud fire arms !
    This sounds like one huge coverup ! Very good story and investigation by you! I thought there was something rong with this investigation! I have heard many ordeals about people payed ex milatary black ops that the government still has do dirty stuff and it sounds like it could be the case ! I love America but hate the lies!

  19. Travis says:

    I also find interesting the video you have hear through u tube has been deleted you can’t hear the second one then on 1st it cuts off when talking to second guy ?

  20. Ann E Haddad, the doppelganger of Nancy Lanza who was in the same mothers’ dice game (???) club as Nancy Lanza…

    Eric and Scott Vollmer – yes there are two sons, not one…

    The killer was buzzed in by a lazy secretary… But it’s unlikely the killer was dressed in black like a GI Joe character or something…

    Or was the killer team buzzed in because it looked harmless – a man and a woman? a priest (Process Church outfit?) and a nun?

    A kindergarten relief teacher and the son of a staff member?

    Nancy Lanza never worked there… But Ann Haddad did…

  21. Dr Dinkins says:

    God you people are STUPID. It happened. The crime scene was cleaned up by a company using a highly trained team. You won’t see the blood as during the clean up all blood is neutralized and placed into bags. Good god you people are MENTALLY ILL!

    • -swansong- says:

      Excellent…just tell us who this company was and what their qualifications were…and we’ll be sure to make any corrections.

  22. CW Wade says:

    I’m guessing the author was unaware that Clean Harbors is in fact the exact company hired to clean the bio waste of SHES. That is very ironic they would use that exact company as an example of expertise.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhTUPrHRrKI

    • -swansong- says:

      I have recently come across that section of the report…and yes…Clean Harbours…contracted by the FBI. Upon contact the FBI denies ever contracting anyone for that kind of work. That would be left to the Town or the School District. This would make further sense since the scene (the school) had been turned over to the town/district/npd on the 21st of dec and clean up by CH didn’t apparently begin til the 31st of dec.

      So far I have not come across a bill for services from Clean Harbours…or anyone else…have you?

      This aside…Rachel Basch appears to be a liar. A long time Newtown resident. Why would she lie?

      Why does Al Barbarotta claim to have been in the school the next morning cleaning and moving when the clean up apparently didn’t begin til the 31st of Dec?

      Many questions yet to be answered for such a smug comment…but thanks for your interest.

      • CW Wade says:

        I would agree with the actual contracting itself; however, the point is the name company is answered. Obviously, as with all truth, hoaxers will flip the script and make up a new direction as opposed to their very clearly phrased question.. WHO. That is what I was answering. New script is fine though; I’ve grown used to it as I lay waste to hoaxer claim after hoaxer claim. The consistent pattern is to change direction and pretend to have been asking something else.

        Rachael Basch means nothing; she is a slimey gun grabber who lives by the school and who has absolutely nothing to do with the crime Adam Lanza committed. You really need to work on your sources.

        The report has pictures of furniture moved into the hallway as they worked the crime scene. Perhaps he was one of them that did that; however, hard to say with any certainty.

        • -swansong- says:

          Careful with the “sources” stuff.

          You’re hanging your argument on a document that says things like this…

          CFS 1200704559 – Book 2 – 00259480.pdf – State Police Call Logs – Pg 16 – 1 Glock found on floor…Sig Sauer Left Front pocket 3rd weapon in holster on body.

          How many guns were there?

          Or how in the original warrants it states that they found the savage .22 with 3 live rounds and one spent round?

          How many times was Nancy shot?

          • CW Wade says:

            Has it occurred to you that if a evil Men In Black guy satin a dark room and prepared those documents they would be entirely consistent? It’s a call log, not the final evidence review.
            The kids said he had a bazooka.. did he have a bazooka?

            Search warrants, for example, are fairly hastily prepared and often not entirely completely accurate on every detail; the main purpose is to establish probable cause based on what’s known or believed at the time. Nancy Lanza is the only good coroners report we have..so I’m not sure where you are going with that.

            As to the rifle question. With a bolt, you manually eject spent rounds. So the any life would be remaining; you state 3, I will take your word for it on that point for arguments sake. The 1 spent would be the last shot fired, still in the chamber of the bolt rifle. Unless the last round fired was manually cycled out of the rifle, it would still be there. .. As a very likely explanation. I dont see the point of that line of query.

          • -swansong- says:

            I provide facts…you respond with supposition.

            It’s just a call log. Yeah…it’s just the real time statement of an on scene LE…big whoop. Lol…

            Your contention that the warrant was prepared hastily has zero basis in fact. This a detailed report of all things seized from the home. Nothing about this investigation was “hasty”. Precisely the opposite, actually. No reason for the amount of errors.

            1 spent shell casing found in the chamber and 3 live rounds in the clip. Somehow that turned into 3 spent shell casings plus 1 spent shell in the chamber.

            The report is an embarrassment in form and function. I’d be careful putting too much stock in it.

          • CW Wade says:

            Well if you are going to put stock in a call log then, logically, there is quite a bit more there that you need to put stock in. If you want to grab one sentence out of the report and holy grail it, written OFF SITE by a dispatcher or deskman.. what about the paramedic’s statements? 40 cops.. EMTs? The RN? WHat about those statements written by those on site? It doesnt fit your preconceived notion so you pretend they don’t exist?

            Back to boring yagananda.. the simplest of all crime scense to grasp.. Why do you ignore the spent casings on the ground? I don’t see where you are going with that. Obviously, the magazine might have unexpended rounds in it… hypothetically if he had 8 rounds in the weapon.. ejected 1 live round and fired 4.. that would leave 3 in the mag and 1 expended shell in the chamber. That’s just simple math.

            What does that have to do with fired rounds? Just as obviously, an expended shell casing may be still in the chamber, because with a bolt action rifle, you must manually eject it. You have her autoptsy report. She was shot 4 times with the 22. That all fits.. I am not understanding your position. You grab hold of one sentence in a call log, but discount both the paramedic who did the PRESUMPTION OF DEATH and the autopsy report by a doctor, not to mention all the cops there?

            So the only sentence you choose to grab hold of is that one single line in the call log and refusing to do math on firing the .22. Does that make any sense?

            I put stock in it because there are dozens and dozens of eye witness accounts in it from police, doctors, paramendics emts who had hands and eyes on dead children. Its a lot better than robbie parker videos.

          • -swansong- says:

            I’m not ignoring the spent shell casings on the floor…THEY AREN’T MENTIONED.

            My gawd you’re obtuse.

  23. CW Wade says:

    Since you are in there, Take a look at the search warrant signed time by the judge.. and can you guess who was correct about whether it the affidavit was hastily written or “Nothing about this investigation was “hasty”… one of us got it right on the facts. Go ahead and respond with date and time signed by Judge Blawie.

    • -swansong- says:

      You do realize the difference between signing a warrant to search and process…and the completed warrant with all the detailed search info/items seized…no?

      Cuz really, it doesn’t sound like you get it.

      • CW Wade says:

        That is an extraordinary claim you have made, I must say. What document are you discussing? Is this in a video some where or is this your contention?

        • -swansong- says:

          It would only be seen as “extraordinary” by someone that hasn’t been paying attention. The report is loaded with this kind of contradictory nonsense.

          I’d love to make it easy for you to find but unfortunately the format of the report doesn’t allow for copying and pasting of info…and you haven’t been polite enough for me to write it all out for you.

          It’s in the appendix of the report Sedensky released. It’s likely in the final report too…I just haven’t found it yet.

          Yoganada warrants.

          Eta…here…I’m feeling generous 🙂 Pg 13 http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/wfsb/warrant1.pdf

          Maybe for your next debate you might want to take on someone your own size?

          • CW Wade says:

            No, a generic label of the doc is fine.. no need to copy / paste. I’m very familiar with all of the documents. I’m happy to let this rest for now and see where it goes. Thanks for the good banter and best of luck and for real, good call on naming the company. That really was insightful on your part.

          • -swansong- says:

            Hmmm…well…thanks CW. I think if you’ve spent any time looking over my articles you’ll see that I’m simply trying to find some truth in this quagmire of nonsense. I have no issue admitting if I’m wrong. I’m just one guy trying to do the work multi million dollar media companies should be doing…and they get stuff wrong everyday…so obviously I will, as well.

            The difference is, I’ll admit it…correct it…and move on. No fantastical claims of “proof” or ridiculous accusations…just the facts as they appear at any given time.

            If that’s your attitude, too…then best of luck to you in your efforts. If it’s not…I imagine we’ll be talking again 🙂

            Cheers,

  24. CW Wade says:

    I can definitely be wrong .. For example, my first video i say the Saiga is in the front seat and it was in the back seat. You are 100% correct, when doing research, you must be willing to keep moving forward even after mistakes. There we have common ground! Moreover, you seem fairly reasonable. you did miss the shell casings though.. but maybe another day. Have you downloaded the entire report? I usually go by book/document numbers for common reference. Did the gun grabber respond to your email?

    You know, gun grabbers are typically inherently dishonest people, IMO. Like Senator Yee in California and Eric Holder. I personally wouldn’t believe her or at least suspect ulterior motive at all times.

    • -swansong- says:

      I’d have to check my notes to be sure on where it was found. I remember “passenger compartment”. I also remember that it had “school victim dna” on it. Penna moved it…and maybe closed all the doors, too? Sibley said all the doors were open. This also brings to mind the removal of said weapon from the trunk that night by LE without gloves…apparently prior to processing.

      “Missed the shell casings”? If you mean the “2 brass colored shell casings”, the onus is on you to show that those are spent .22 shell casings since they are clearly labelled differently and separately. And…even if they are, you’re still one short. If you’re speaking of something else, please share. I like to be as informed as possible.

      • CW Wade says:

        Your problem is you are too smart for your own good. Slow down when you look at this stuff. Count again.

        • -swansong- says:

          Your problem is you are too smart for your own good.

          No argument there.

          • cw wade says:

            lol. So Im guessing you located all 4. casings now?

          • -swansong- says:

            Don’t know about you, CW…but I’m not a game player. If you have something to share…share it. Otherwise simply admit that there’s no mention of 3 other “spent .22 shell casings” in that section of the warrants.

            “The white female sustained AN apparent gsw to the head”…not multiple gsw. “Investigators found a rifle on the floor near the bed.” No mention of spent shell casings.

            Or this gem…”Investigators also located a teenaged white male dressed in military style clothing wearing a bulletproof vest.”

            Regardless…if it’s there…show me.

  25. From David Andrew Bryson: *Here are my TOP 14 Sandy Hook questions I’d like to see answered:

    1) ~ What were Peter and Ryan Lanza’s roles and responsibilities as a Senior Partner (Peter) and Accountant (Ryan) at Ernst & Young when they were paid 107 million in 2011 to audit the UBS Bank- the bank at the absolute dead center of the LIBOR Scandal involving an 800 Trillion Dollar Global Scam?

    Link to Info on the Libor Scandal: http://www.forbes.com/…/fdic-sues-16-global-banks-for…/2) ~ If Chris Manfredonia was on-site at SHE in the morning to help with building Gingerbread Houses which he claims as the reason for his being there, why then do other parents, such as Diana and Roberts Lacotta, report on CNN and they were planning to go in at 2pm to do the same end-of-the-day-type activity and why did Neil Heslin tell the NY Post he was going to go in at 2:30?

    3) ~ Since a photograph is not “Positive Identification”, why did Chief Medical Examiner, Wayne Carver presume that parents would consent to accept the death of their children by a 2-D photograph, which can be photoshopped, in preference to actually being permitted to approach their children in 3-D to positively confirm their identities, as is standard protocol in most homicide investigations?

    4) ~ Why do the Sandy Hook Fire Chief, Bill Halstead, who is also the local Emergency Preparedness Director, ex-wife, Barbara Halstead, who works as secretary 400 yards away at SHE and who called 911 dispatch, and daughter, Karin Halstead, a Sandy Hook EMS Captain who responded to that 911 call appear to all be at the epicenter of this operation?

    5) ~ Why was each family given a gag-order and sequestered with a “Sheriff” living in their homes for many weeks following the shooting- what was their role and purpose and why were the families being supervised so strictly after the disappearance of their loved ones? What are the names and credentials of these “Sheriffs” and how long did they stay in the homes of the victim’s families?

    6) ~ Previous to Sandy Hook, why did Chief Medical Examiner, Wayne Carver push so hard to lobby for the passage of new legislation that would prevent the release of child autopsies and seal the contents on pediatric homicide reports?

    7) ~ What is the name of the CBS reporter who indicated that a second shooter was taken into custody and that a SWAT team had been deployed to his house on Philo Curtis Dr.? While vetting the home on Philo Curtis drive, some law enforcement present were recorded on video speaking a foreign language, what language was it? If foreign teams were involved with the Sandy Hook operation, what was their specific role?

    8) ~ Why was CT State Emergency Systems hijacked in the early morning of 12/14/12- who did this and when did NPD and State Police find out and when they did, why did they not mention it publicly or in the Sedensky Report?

    9) ~ Who were the police at the scene when Connecticut Post tweeted on 12/14/12, “Police have surrounded a purple van at 33 Crosby Street in Danbury that may be connected to Newtown school shooting”, who was in the van, where did they come from, where were they going and what is the license plate number?

    10) ~ Was Lt. Vance present at the Sandy Hook Fire Station DHS-Sponsored HSEEP Training program on the date of Sep. 22 2010 and which was organized by Reuben F. Bradford, Commissioner of the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection who announced immediately before the release of the Sandy Hook State Police Report on Dec. 27th 2013 that he will be stepping down to retire early next year? (http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDetail_page.asp…)

    11) ~ Were Newtown Police Dept. and Connecticut State Police in collusion with DHS and FEMA in advance of 12/14/12 to participate in a secret, unannounced “Black Drill” at SHE on 12/14/12 and if FEMA and DHS are faking traumatic, terror events, then what recourse does the Constitutionally-protected general public have in preventing further inter-agency collusions for the purpose of “Black Drills”?

    12) ~ Where are the minutes from the meeting of CT. Governor Malloy and US Attorney General, Eric Holder, who convened in New Haven CT on Nov. 27- 2 weeks before the Sandy Hook Event to discuss strategies for “Project Longevity” that would bring federal grant money into CT. to help combat Gun Violence and put local law enforcement agents, academics, and social workers under the direction of the FBI and BATF -why at that meeting did Ron Pinciaro, head of CT Against Gun Violence, say “The community needs to show a little more outrage on these things and demand it to be a top priority”?

    13)~ Why were there eyewitnesses who reported to the press later in the day on 12/14 that a huge number of NPD arrived at St. Rose with guns drawn and took into custody what the original article said was “the shooter’s brother”? (http://www.newburyportnews.com/…/Local-woman-witnesses…)

    14) ~ Are there any underground tunnels beneath the Masonic Lodge that sits directly behind Sandy Hook Elementary?
    FDIC Sues 16 Global Banks For Roles In Manipulating LIBOR
    The FDIC filed the lawsuit on behalf of 38 banks which went bankrupt at the peak of the downturn in 2008, as a considerable part of the losses for these banks were incurred on interest-rate derivative products sold to them by the bigger banks.
    forbes.com

  26. Dudeashaneo says:

    Did we answer why Al Barbotta was in the school Saturday morning ( December 15th) building walls? If the supposed cleanup began 7 days later how could his team be allowed in the school at all? They had not gotten done processing the scene. Carver even said at his news conference they were there doing work around 2pm still. Lastly if the blood is to be processed and removed all the classrooms had carpet. Where did they dispose of the carpet?

    Okay all for now.

    • -swansong- says:

      Honestly, eh? Actually school cleanup began 17 days later…the 31st. Barbarotta is pretty clear in his comments to the paper about being there the next day and the amount of blood.

      Good to see you, Dude. I’ve been banned from GLP for almost a month now.

      • Dudeashaneo says:

        Ah the epic banning. Just buy a membership and the banning stops…..there is a method to their madness you know.

        Barbarotta states he was there Saturday morning around 8:30am. Why would the governor call him to clear out the school that soon? Can you imagine the call?

        ” Hey Al, Your ol’bud Malloy here. Say, we just had a shooting in Sandy Hook and I need your help. I need you to get into the school tomorrow morning and start clearing out desks and other items. Right now there are some dead kids and teachers still laying around in there and lots of blood…but I need you to build a wall around the crime scene so your team will not disturb it during the move.. Oh…and that reminds me your workers cannot bring in their cell phones because I don’t need them going all picture/facebook/internet crazy in there. Don’t step in any of the blood because we will not have a bio-hazard team in there for a couple weeks. Try to be polite to the ME team trying to finish identifying the victims. The police are going to be processing the scene as well so stay out of their way. I know it would probably be better to have you wait since LT Vance said he still needs to peel back the onion but dammit I really need you in that school. It would just make me feel better if you could do your thing….if you know what I mean….Okay? Good. Cool! alright say hi to the wife and kids for me and I will talk to ya later. I need to have a press conference assailing the NRA and need to brush up on my anecdotes.”

        Honestly how else could it have gone?

        • stickywicket says:

          Why would LE possibly let a SWAT team go marching into the school and through a crime scene with blood, etc just a few hours after the shooting? Um, wouldn’t that be considered contamination of a crime scene?

          • -swansong- says:

            Especially so long after the scene had been cleared. What was the point of sending them marching through there? Or prying the lock off the shed to look inside?

  27. Dudeashaneo says:

    Great update. I wish we would have thought to ask Al if the wall he constructed ( in haste )around the crime scene was of his own design or if LE gave him guidelines on where to place it.

    • -swansong- says:

      Thanks, Dude. Good question. My “guess” is they would have instructed where and he would have decided how.

      • Dudeashaneso says:

        Well, Since he conceded he only moved books….. doesn’t it stand to reason that he might not have built the wall? Over played his hand perhaps.

  28. Don Kosky says:

    Where are the 500 kids who didn’t get shot? I heard they are at the Chalk School. Are investigators watching them? Can they be identified as being part of the previous Sandy Hook School? Are they transfers from the other elementary schools? are people watching the parents of these kids and running their plates to see who they are? I think a big part of this false flag is looking at the kids that lived and their families and seeing if they are consistent.

  29. Tuxicat says:

    Hi! Although I am usually a person who is skeptical to conspiracy theories, this case has truly baffled me. I first heard that something was happening on Twitter that day, and I turned on CNN to see what was going on. I saw some live reports, then they kept showing the same footage over of parents running to the school and the kids coming out. What struck me was it did not look “chaotic” like Columbine was. At Columbine you had kids screaming and crying. I remember one girl who was being held by a classmate who was shaking so bad and she kept saying, “So many dead. So many dead.”. I sometimes wonder how she is doing now, since so many years have gone by and would not be surprised if she has PTSD. The kids coming out of Columbine seemed to be in a daze, understandably so, and there were some with blood traces on clothing. The kids coming out of Sandy Hook seemed so stoic, and being that they were elementary school kids, I expected more to be hysterical, as I’m sure I would have been in that situation, as a kid, or as a teen after a shooting. I was just surprised not to see signs of like blood on shoes, or sprayed on clothing, with the amount of people killed. Having to walk out through that would have been enough to make me react hysterically. The footage I saw seemed surreal of Sandy Hook because everyone seemed just too calm, except for a few kids and parents crying. I just had a something seems a little strange here.

    • -swansong- says:

      If it helps you are not alone in your confusion 🙂

    • Will Munny says:

      I thought the footage was strange at the time, too. Too controlled. Everything within a limited pan. I kept thinking, ‘Why aren’t they shooting more video than this?’ and ‘Why are they just shooting in this tiny limited area?’ Well, I know now. HOAX. FAKE. The perps are guilty of terrorism and I can’t wait until they swing for it.

    • Robert says:

      I don’t think you would have 6 and 8 year olds holding each other saying “so many dead.” This was an entirely different situation. Lots of the photos I saw showed kids who were obviously scared and shaken up. I would also challenge you on the blood on shoes etc… I don’t remember seeing that at Columbine. I’m not trying to dog you here, but until I see some hard evidence I’m just not buying the conspiracy angle. The theatre picture used by the author of this article made me think about the lack of blood too so I am really curious if anyone can find any pictures of Columbine that showed blood outside. The theatre pic to me doesn’t count because the door was right next to the crime scene, in other words… that was the emergency exit from the theatre. I doubt we would see any blood in front where they had to travel farther to get out.. but I’m just not sure. I’m just trying to stay objective. I’m not saying it wasn’t a hoax… I’m just saying that I don’t believe it just yet. I’m going to keep reading more on this and see if I can make a better decision.

  30. Polly says:

    the music is annoying.

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  32. Robert says:

    I don’t remember seeing any blood at Columbine and was wondering if there was any there? I’m talking about outside. The theatre picture is good… but it’s not a school. I think a picture of a school that had blood in the yard would add more to your story. Great story.. I thought about it all night. I’m on the fence with this whole thing and have not heard any damning evidence yet that makes me think it is a conspiracy… just assumptions and coincidences. Weird things? Yes. Stupid things? Yes. The best example I can give is about the dad who was laughing before the press conference and then crying when it started. Death and tragedy is a strange thing. When my wife died I would be laughing one second and crying the next…especially if the conversation turned to her at all… I would just bawl. So I don’t know. You have to be really careful about that stuff. What I’m waiting for is someone to find the janitor and speak to him. Also, are you saying that all the kids were actors? or just that they didn’t die? If they didn’t die where are they? I don’t think they could hide them. In the end I think it is just too impossible for me to believe because of the scope of the whole thing. I still don’t understand the reasoning behind it either. Someone said it was a ‘drill’ gone bad. What the hell does that mean? If that is true then I really don’t believe it because they would have had no time to get actors and everything. Sorry, I’m not trying to be annoying or anything… just trying to understand. I just want to see an article that explains ‘why’ and I have not seen it. Can you point me to some articles that might help?

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